Season 11, Episode 7
David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and we are here with our guest, Emery Smith.
In this episode we're going to be discussing extraterrestrial coworkers.
Emery, welcome back to the show.
Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave, for having me.
David: I didn't realize, actually, that you were, in some cases, working on these autopsies with people who were not of Earth origin.
So could you start to lay out for us under what circumstances you might have someone in the OR [operating room] with you who is a completely separate type of person than what we're used to here on Earth?
Emery: First, I would like to start off by saying, not all extraterrestrials are 100% of not human genetic DNA.
You might have an Arcturian that's only 75% Arcturian and maybe 10% Pleiadian, and another . . . the residual of that, human.
So for the most part, most extraterrestrials actually have our same human DNA. It's just that over millions of years they have been intertwining and getting new types of genetic formations by mixing different DNAs and different types of extraterrestrials.
David: So is the theory that there actual travels going on and interbreeding in ancient past?
Emery: Exactly. And the past also is the future. So you have to think that these extraterrestrials that are a few million years ahead of us, actually WERE us at one time.
So it's actually some of our DNA is in there. Our children's children's children's children's DNA could be possibly part of the extraterrestrial that we are seeing today because they have already mastered time travel and portal travel and things like this.
So the time is . . . You can't really say the time because time really doesn't exist. But these extraterrestrials did have descendants that WERE from Earth.
David: Okay. So you mentioned an Arcturian who might also have some human genetics. If we saw this Arcturian, what would it look like?
Emery: Well, there's many different types of Arcturians just like there's many different types of humans on planet Earth.
Emery: Some of the Arcturians that I worked with do look very human like, but they're a lot more robust, and they're larger. Some are 7' to 8' tall [2.13 m to 2.44 m].
Emery: Some are actually of really ancient descent, which their genetics have not changed over time, which they did not intermingle with other extraterrestrials.
And some of those actually looked like a rock formation, like that . . . one of those superheroes that's made out of a rock you see on TV and . . .
David: Like in “The Fantastic Four”.
Emery: Like “The Fantastic Four”. And they don't . . . They look like they're hard and rock, but they're not. They actually have a spongy-type feel to them, kind of like an actual sea sponge where it's very porous material.
They are usually a gold or an orange-type color. And they are very robust with a large Cro-Magnon-type skull, which is a little bit . . . about twice the size of our heads and a lot, like I said, more robust looking.
And they have been spotted on the projects many times in many different ways.
And then there are Arcturians that are actually more human looking, which just have a very robust muscular looking body-builder type look to them, but a lot more Cro-Magnon as far as the skull features. And the bones are about three times as dense as a human's.
David: Wow! So let's take this discussion of the operating room a little farther.
For some reason when you and I talked about this years ago, I was under the impression that you just went in there by yourself. You did the autopsy by yourself. You had some people speaking to you through the intercom, and that was it.
But it doesn't sound like that now based on some of the things we've been talking about.
Emery: The first year was like that, until I got higher classification and cl . . . and security clearance.
After that, I was brought into what they call “multi-level projects”, which means it's not just me going in there harvesting a piece of tissue, but you're actually harvesting many different kinds of tissue and also working with the being's craft.
So these projects could have up to three teams of 15 scientists and physicians and technicians working on just one being and one craft.
Emery: And some of those scientists and physicians are actually of “un-Earth origin” – this is the term they use – which are extraterrestrials, which have volunteered, either after being captured or volunteered through the system, through the compartmentalized program, to work to actually help us, because they kind of actually feel bad sometimes, even after we capture them and beat the heck out of them and do horrible things to them.
They actually turn around and willingly want to help us and stay with us and teach them about their own physiological phenotypes, about their own race.
David: Would you say that these extraterrestrials are benevolent?
Emery: Yes. I would say they're benevolent. I would say they're a very humanitarian type of thought process. They're a lot smarter than us.
They could actually at any time probably do damage to us or hurt us with their telekinesis and telepathic abilities, but they don't.
David: So, there you are in an operating room, and you're saying that in some of these cases you might have an extraterrestrial and a craft. And you're working on both at the same time.
Emery: They usually keep the extraterrestrials and the craft separate. So you might have a bay not too far away, maybe within 300 meters, which is very close, by the way, because these things are SO spread out underground, you know, up to 10 miles in diameter some of these bases.
And you will have the being . . . The being is separate. And then you'll have the craft in another bay.
These are all very clean areas, which I can describe in detail.
I might be actually assisting an extraterrestrial, helping complete the mission, whatever the mission is: gathering frequencies using devices, or gathering tissue samples, or running special tests of the bodies, which actually . . . They can scan the whole body and 3D print that body later on.
David: So could you give us some examples now of what kind of being might you actually see as a coworker in the operating room with you? Just start to go through . . .
Emery: Sure. Like, some of the first ones I want to go over are like the beings that are monkey-like human.
Emery: And their pelvises are not spread out like a monkey, by the way. They all stand very erect like we do, but they have the formation of, you know, a monkey's look, with longer hair and the face is more pronounced like a human without a snout. And . . .
David: So it's not necessarily like “Planet of the Apes”, . . .
David: . . . but they're still more of an ape-like appearance than us?
Emery: Very ape-like appearance but more human like, and not that much fur on the face, by the way, just around it and around the body.
And they speak very well. They have great vocal cords.
They have a problem, though, with high pitch sounds. So they have to wear special things in their ear when we work with them that actually tone down the sound of just our own voice.
And, of course, they pick up on different frequencies from electromagnetic fields and TVs and computers. There's these high pitched sounds they give off that really distorts them and allows them to come actually ill if they don't have these protective ear plugs in.
David: This is a bizarre thing, because one of the groups that Pete Peterson told me about was a simian group that he called Simulacs.
And in that case they had genetically modified their hands so that their fingers were actually these prehensile tail like things. They had done some genetic modification on themselves.
Emery: Yes, I've seen a lot of genetic modifications on humans and extraterrestrials for different projects that were not normal from their lineage.
And I did notice a couple of these in and out very rarely, but they do come about.
And, you know, we don't get to – sometimes, of course – sit down and have lunch with these beings and talk unless we're actually working closely with them.
But the people that look like these monkeys and apes that stand very erect also do not have that thumb that sticks out like on a gorilla. It actually can actually grasp stuff.
Their hands are also not large and bulky like you would see as an ape. That's actually a thinner, longer fingers and a very broad palm – so great operating thumb.
David: Do we know where these ape-like people originated from? Did you get any briefings on their system or anything like that?
Emery: I believe these come from multiple systems, including Arcturus and Sirius and Spica – that area of space.
And because the genetic lineage of DNA that I was reading in the library at the time did pinpoint a lot of these ape-like human beings from these systems, that they all had similar genetics from each system.
So you might have one that's mixed with other ET systems, but all the DNA was the same. I mean the same . . . meaning that they had all the same ape DNA, whether it be 30% or 90%.
David: Mm. So what is their agenda here?
Emery: Yeah, there's obviously something going on behind the scenes that I'm not privy to know, but what I believe is that these beings that we either caught or captured or volunteered to come here that are working with either the government or the military or the Cabal on different occasions for different projects, are strictly humanitarian. And they don't have any agenda at all.
And they could probably easily take out a lot of people if they really wanted to, but they don't have that feeling.
Being next to one of these extraterrestrials, by the way, including the Ant people and the Mantis people, you have a really beautiful self-feeling being in their energy fields.
And people have actually had miraculous healings by being on these craft and working on the craft and working just in the vicinity of an extraterrestrial.
David: How does THAT work?
Emery: I do not know how that works. I think it's electromagnetic of some frequency that allows the body, their body, that already generates a very, very high vibration, . . . It actually brings our vibration up so our cells are running at a specific voltage so our own cells can heal ourself.
David: Interesting. Okay. So you also mentioned Ant people and Mantis people. So could you walk through for us what that would be like? You said it was enjoyable to be around them.
I think most people, without a lot of vetting and preparation, would be extremely frightened if they saw an adult human-sized insect that appeared to be intelligent standing in front of them.
Emery: Yes. I don't have fear of any ETs, and I've seen some really gross disgusting looking things that people would probably just associate with pop culture or just, you know, things that we don't like to see, such as . . . we have an inner emotion just by seeing the color red, blood, which is an emergency color for us.
And you have to understand that these ETs do not see just like we do in just our normal color spectrum. Some of these ETs see in variable, many variable colors, spectrums of light, which means they can see things we can't see, even X-ray vision for some of them.
Some of them have special coatings on their eyes. Like some of the Reptilian forms have three different layers that they can put on their eyes to see in different light spectrums at will.
Some of the Ant people also have this amazing ability to see through things and to hear things that we can't hear and to actually look into you and can tell if there's something wrong with you, if you had a disease or whatnot.
David: Like X-ray vision.
Emery: Yeah, like X-ray vision, a kind of light spectrum that we're not aware of yet here on Earth because all we have is the eyes of all the animals here that we've studied for our entire lifetime and humans. But it's completely different.
Some of them actually have to wear goggles just to live here and to be here because the light is TOO much. It actually enhances light.
They come from places where there's complete darkness for a human, . . . that we would not even see darker, dark as a black hole. But they can see things.
David: So let's stop on the Ant people for a second.
David: Can you recall an example of an autopsy you were working on where you were assisted by an Ant person? And just walk us through what that was. What happened?
Emery: Well, the interesting thing about these autopsies, too, is you have to understand there's different types of suits that we use, of course, for different types of races.
So an extraterrestrial Ant-person suit does not look like my suit that I work with in the operating room at all.
And these are self-contained atmospheres. And some of these extraterrestrials have to have a special atmosphere, or a vacuum, for them to actually work here on the planet.
And they also look a lot different than we do as far as the body. The Ant people have these very, very thin, but very strong, arms and legs.
And you're looking at them because it's basically 75% thinner than our own femurs, but yet incredibly more durable than our femurs.
And then you have the robust body that could be segmented or non-segmented depending on where they're from.
And then you have the face. And a lot of people do comment on the face.
They could have a double mouth or pincers on the face, and a lot of tentacles, and a lot of little things coming out of their face that kind of might look a little gruesome.
You might hear one speak. They have special voice box analyzers that come on their neck and in their ears, sometimes in their mouth, that translates into a human language, whether it be English or Russian. And they talk multiple languages though these things.
And it does sound not like our voices. It's a little more higher pitch actually. And the screeching of that sometimes is upsetting to some people and could be maybe a little scary on your first visit [with] one of these extraterrestrials, especially when you see their mouths open and you can see all the layers inside, which is just a normal thing. It's nothing.
They're not trying to be negative, but we perceive it to be negative because it's not a smile, that's for sure.
David: Right. I remember Pete Peterson telling me about being at this Antarctic base where there were several types of ETs, including a Mantis type, and that when it would laugh, that it would put its head down because all the mandibles would . . . There were three on each side and they would open up.
And it was so disturbing for us that it learned to just put its head down when it laughed.
Emery: Yeah. What's more disturbing is how we laugh to them.
Emery: One of the most hideous sounds I've ever heard, . . . you ever think about it and put yourself on their side and start laughing. What an interesting sound that may be for them, because it's not a normal vocal vibration for sure.
David: Sure. Now Pete also had talked about . . . It's really interesting how similar this all sounds, because Pete had described the Mantis being and how it spoke.
And he said that there was some kind of orifice on its back that it had to essentially belch out of, and that it had figured out how to turn this into speech somehow – that it was this very kind of strange sounding thing.
And Pete had dialogued with the being about this at one point, and it said, “Well, imagine how gross you are to me.”
Emery: Right, exactly. What is that thing, that big hole on your face, sir?
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: It's neat to do the perspective, for humans to turn it around. I want everyone to do that. Think about how you would react to one of these. Could you accept them because of the way they look?
David: Well, how do you feel when you're around one of these insectoids, let's say?
Emery: Oh, they're very comical. I mean, they're very . . . They have great communication. The insectoids are very loving, caring energies.
They actually tease you sometimes with their intelligence. They get a little pun out of saying things and doing things around you.
David: Well, so much of what we have in terms of human empathy comes from these extremely subtle muscular movements in our eyes and how that makes us look.
Emery: Uh huh.
David: But with a set of compound eyes you just have a bunch of dots that wouldn't have any soul at all. So how would you feel humor from a being like this when you can't get any eye information?
Emery: You don't need to because a lot of this energy is telepathic and telekinetic, so you actually feel happy.
You might . . . Like you get chills walking into a dark room at night because you might feel a ghost, but it's the opposite. It actually enlightens you. It actually puts you in a good mood, and your body picks up on this.
And a lot of communication in a lot of species out there with extraterrestrials is all based on just that without vocalness. It's all just looking at each other and gathering information – just like dogs look at their owners at one side of the face, and it tells them everything they need to know of how you feel.
David: So you feel this sense of humor and this personality coming from the being without any facial cues at all that you would normally recognize?
Emery: Right, because a lot of these insectoids have just a very hard skin, very reflective skin – that there is no . . . all these muscles moving up and down. They don't have a muscular structure except to open and close their mouth or eyeballs.
They don't have a flaring of the nostrils, which we pick up on subliminally just as humans.
Emery: So it's a very different feeling. It's different aspects of communication.
David: So let's go back again to the Ant people. And I had asked you to walk us through a specific example of where you were doing an autopsy with an Ant person.
Like what were they there for and what were you autopsying?
Emery: There was a big project where they found multiple Ant people that were somehow killed by chemicals of some sort. And there was a lot of them that were brought into the facility, I remember, by the truckloads actually.
David: Did you have any idea where these casualties happened?
Emery: No, I don't know. I do believe it was in North America somewhere.
David: In an underground facility then?
Emery: Yeah, I think that somehow they were discovered, and I think they were probably taken out in some fashion in the New Mexico, Colorado area.
Emery: I don't know the specifics, but they did bring in multiple beings. And these beings all died of asphyxiation, and their lungs were completely burned out, and some of their mucous membranes and eyeballs were completely burned out.
Emery: So these Ant scientists that were there were actually assisting, trying to find out and see what happened to these individuals.
David: Now were the Ant people in the room that were alive the same types as the ones that were dead?
Emery: Yes, the exact same types. And it was the first time I've ever felt sorrow next to an extraterrestrial.
David: Really? What was that like?
Emery: It was really upsetting. That was . . . [Emery feels strong emotion, stops, turns away, tears up.] sorry.
David: That's okay. We've heard from others that you feel 100% empathy with them.
David: Like, if they lose a leg you feel . . .
Emery: You feel it.
David: . . . like your leg is lost. If they lose a loved one, it's like your own mother or father died.
Emery: Especially if you're working with them a lot. There's some sort of frequency exchange. [It] could last for weeks, [it] could last for years, where you have this connection with them. And it's a . . . And to relive that is overwhelming, whether it's good or bad.
And you also have dreams, too, beautiful dreams.
David: Do you know if the being that was in the autopsy room with you had actually known these people? Was there a community? Did they . . . Were these people their friends, or were they just . . .
Emery: It was of the same race and they did not know them that I'm aware of and did not show anything that they knew them but just had an affinity for their own kind being so massacred.
David: Did you ever get any information about where they come from or how did they get to Earth? Did you get any briefings like that?
Emery: No. I know their civilization is pretty rampant all over our Solar System and universe. So . . .
Emery: I don't know where they're exactly from. I didn't read up on that as much as the other species.
But they seem to have been around a lot longer than the human race.
David: Could you describe the color of their face? Like when you . . .
Emery: Oh, yeah. It's like a blackish red, kind of like a brick color. And that brick color can go in many shades.
Emery: And I've also seen a little bit more yellow than red, but they all have a similar fading of the blackish red in and out through their body and their legs and arms.
David: Are there any antenna on their heads?
Emery: They have antennas.
David: What does that look like?
Emery: They're shorter than you would see here on Earth with the little antennas that the ants are . . . They could be thick; they could be 3”; they could be 4”, 5” – not long like you see on our Earth, like these long antennas which are like half of the body.
David: You probably don't know this, but that's exactly what Corey Goode said.
Emery: I do not. I never heard that. And you guys know I don't watch Corey or Pete Peterson. So that's REALLY interesting he said that . . .
Emery: . . . because that . . . You can't make that up.
David: You can't make that up. It's very cool.
David: I didn't want to give you a leading question.
Emery: No, please, yeah.
David: So when we have a Mantis-type being in the autopsy room with you, could you bring up for us one specific example where . . . Let's describe what the being that you were autopsying was. What was the Mantis being there for? And why was that project being done?
Emery: Well, one of the autopsies we did: we had a Mantis being with about five other scientists in there. And we were working on a regular . . . actually, a human, but an extraterrestrial human that was not from Earth, that was born somewhere else.
And they were a lot larger than us, probably another foot or two taller. I think 7½' [2.3 m] to say the least, like the size of an NBA player.
And it was very white, albino looking skinned, blue-eyed person that . . . I don't know why we were operating on him.
But they DID bring the Mantis in because the Mantis was able to somehow reactivate the brain through electric stimulation from them, even through a suit, and can memory recall what happened to the person before they died.
Emery: And that's why sometimes they are brought in. And they're very docile, very gentle beings.
And when it's not that serious of a situation, they can be really funny.
David: How much like a mantis' face would this face of this being look like? Are there certain . . .
Emery: Oh, it is dead on. On the Mantis, it is dead on: that triangular shape with the bulging eyes, and it's all the same color.
You know, their face and eyes are exactly the same color. So it's a little weird.
They're usually a pale green, and they can change color at will.
Emery: Yes. And it's neat to see them in deep thought when they're doing these processes because it's a wave of rainbow light going back and forth through their face.
Emery: You kind of can get mesmerized actually by it.
Emery: I always love when they do that. I get so captivated. And I'm looking at them through the actual helmets that we use, these large glass spacesuit helmets.
And they're just so . . . just so amazing to look at, especially when they move too. Like, I talked about these other ETs that move so fluid. but they are just more angled – their visor is more angled.
They don't have the articulation that we do in our joints. It's usually one way or the other, but very precise, very precise.
David: When we're looking at hands on either an Ant person or a Mantis person, are they human-looking hands? Or what might be different?
Emery: They have five . . . They all have five fingers – the Mantis. The Ants may have anywhere from four to five fingers.
Emery: But they are fingers and they're jointed, and they can move them. They're just more like pointy, and you don't see any muscles in them or anything like that.
It's just because of this exoskeleton like the insects we have here on Earth.
David: So . . .
Emery: Feet are different, though. Not the feet. The feet do not have five toes.
David: What do you see?
Emery: Usually a two-toed type of appendage on the bottom of their legs. Yep, and it's a very wide stance. And those toes are very long. Some can be up to 10”~12” long, but only two.
Sometimes you'll see a little back toe sticking out.
David: The toe kind of shoots forward like this? [David holds his two closed fists together and extends his index fingers forward and apart.]
Emery: Exactly. And then one little back toe like a . . .I don't even know what to compare it to. But you understand there's a back one. So it's a Y. Their feet are like this Y shape.
David: So we've been through, now, Mantis people. We've been through the Ant people. We've been through Simian people. You also mentioned Reptilians.
David: Now, the Reptilians that we're heard about from Corey are extremely antagonistic to us, extremely violent, extremely evil.
It doesn't sound like this is the same thing in your case. So could you tell us about . . . What were the Reptilians that you saw? And what were they here for?
Emery: Well, the Reptilians that were working on the projects that I was involved with were very intelligent.
They didn't have much of a personality.
They're very direct. They're very robust. Not to be funny, but they kind of look like a Sleestak on the “Land of the Lost”, the old version.
And they stand very erect and they do have the same type of toes and hands that you would see on the insectoids.
Emery: They're more like a three-toed, three-prong hand, but very dexterous, very ambidextrous and dexterous. They could grab things just like we do.
And they're very strong for their size.
You may see one anywhere from 6'~10' tall [2.0~3.0 m].
They don't have any snout. They have a regular like human face, scaly, but very large eyes, twice the size of our eyes, with pupils like us, not the slits you see in the movies.
It's under my understanding that these might be hybrid-human Reptilians that were designed somewhere.
I did read a lot on their space center and the Bootes region of the Arcturus star system area, where they have a type of planet there that was man-made like you would see in the movies like “Death Star”, where they raise families and educate these beings at a very young age.
The families are very large. The male and female might have a minimum of 30 children.
Emery: Yes. And they have a gestation that's a lot faster than ours. It's not nine months. It's like three months.
Emery: And their genitalia is also retractable into their bodies, so it's really hard to tell if they're male or female.
David: That's another thing that Corey has independently reported, yes, same thing.
David: So you said that these beings looked sort of like the Sleestak on “Land of the Lost”.
And I do remember as a kid being very, very freaked out when I saw those.
Emery: I was petrified of those beings as a little child.
Emery: And they did it well. I mean, they do look like so intimidating. They don't have muscles in their face to smile, so they always have the same expression.
And even though they're so . . . , they might be happy inside. You would not know by their face because it's always the same expression.
So you can only know this by communication and by feeling their energy fields.
And another thing, they didn't run around like you see the Sleestaks on the TV show, like, that are, I mean, naked with no clothing.
They actually had a special suit kind of like a Spandex fabric that covered their whole body.
And I finally found out why they wore these funny suits – they looked really funny in them – because I was hoping to see this naked Sleestak running around, right?
But no, it's not like that at all. It's very misleading. It actually had this Spandex suit covering most of its body except for the elbows down and knees down. And it was actually to control this odor that they had that's very pungent, that's a pheromone that they always release.
And anytime they get really excited or happy, it actually just kind of pours out of their body. And this absorbs it and neutralizes it using some sort of ionic technology that I'm not familiar with.
David: Well, you wouldn't know this because you haven't watched the show to not get contaminated, but we've had Niara Isley, we've had Pete Peterson, and we've had Corey Goode all report on the awful smell that these beings have.
David: So this was a way for them to be more social, I guess?
Emery: Yeah. They actually do communicate a little bit.
Don't forget, these beings can breathe through their skin. And these pheromones are actually a way of communicating with others.
And I heard that their smell is so good . . . and they do smell with their tongue and they have a very interesting tongue. It's not split or anything, but it's very long. But they don't ever show that, by the way. That's just something they do, I think, when they eat.
And their eating is also very interesting because they only eat like once a month.
And these smells and these pheromones can be smelled . . . They can smell this for a few hundred miles. It's like the Raptors and the birds and the sharks of the ocean that can pick up on these small molecules in the air. Not to say one of these Reptilians would completely contaminate a 10-mile underground base with their stench, but just to say: where they're from, this is another form of communication of how their emotion is at that point.
David: It seems to me from what you're saying now [is] that our military-industrial-complex is already deeply involved with benevolent extraterrestrial species.
Do you think these benevolent ETs want to be known to the rest of us at some point? Do you think there is going to be some kind of opening up of the veils of secrecy?
Emery: 1,000% they want this. And I think by them doing these humanitarian projects to show their willingness to help and work with us, to learn their customs and to learn about their physiology, is the first step for human-extraterrestrial interaction and trust.
David: Awesome. Well, Emery, I want to thank you for being here.
Emery: Thank you for having me.
David: You're very brave. And I want to thank you for watching. This is “Cosmic Disclosure” with our special guest, Emery Smith.