Season 9, Episode 2
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and we have a special surprise for you: the insider who I referred to as Paul. And I can reveal for the first time that his name is Emery Smith.
And you may know him if you ever saw the movie, “Sirius”.
Emery, welcome to the show.
Emery Smith: Oh, thanks Dave. I'm so excited to be here – 10 years in the making of working with you and establishing a great relationship.
And basically, you're the reason that a lot of my progression in this field of undisclosed information has been brought to me.
And at the same time, it's time now to bring it forward, which, thanks for helping me get to that point, because, as you know, for the past three to five years, I was kind of just holding onto it.
David: Now, in the movie “Sirius”, . . .
David: . . . there is an autopsy of a little, six-inch tall, apparently extraterrestrial body.
David: Who, in the movie, is doing that autopsy?
Emery: I was Vice President for CSETI for about five years, and what had happened was there was this being, of course, that was taken over by a civilian lab in Spain.
And the government actually did have it before anyone else, but no one knows about that.
Emery: So the thing was, the people I was working with in CSETI decided it would be a great idea to go over here, and “let's do an autopsy, and let's get some DNA, because if you get some DNA, well, that outrules everything. And let's get a major university to do it.”
So being through my background, working with tissue from un-Earth origin in these compartmentalized programs – I've seen over 3,000 of these things – that it was just a winner for me to be the person to go do the autopsy on the senior team.
And I was definitely also assisted by Dr. Steven Greer and Dr. Jan Bravo.
So they were, of course, the physicians there witnessing this and helping me harvest this tissue.
David: I don't think anybody will forgive me if we don't talk, at least in this first episode we'll get started, about how you came to have multiple medical doctorate-level knowledge from classified military programs.
Emery: Well, I . . .
David: So can we talk about what you did in the military with this unusual biology?
Emery: Yeah, sure. You know, it all started, actually, when I joined the military at an early age. I was what they call a 90252. I don't think they still use those codes anymore.
But it had to do with being like a surgical technician – just a person who hands instruments to the physician.
Emery: And I was also a paramedic and a surgical first assist, and then I became a teacher for that very quickly – overnight.
And then when I moved to Kirtland Air Force Base, they offered me a special, what we call “moonlighting job”, they call it.
And I was still a kid, you understand. I was very young, but I was very intelligent and very mature for my age at that time.
And I was fascinated when they were putting me in charge of million dollar equipment that not normal people would be able to even utilize or even . . . it's not even ready for . . . even to be used for civilians yet.
Emery: So that lured me into working this . . . Okay, “Well, we're going to say you're THIS, Sergeant Smith, but you're really going to be doing THIS. But you're still going to be getting paid.”
And I said, “Okay.”
So, basically, I'm working for civilian, compartmentalized programs, but I'm an active duty service member. And it worked out.
I know there was a lot of . . . I could tell that the people that I was working for in the operating rooms there, it was like, “Well, why is Smith always leaving every day at noon? Where does he go?”
“Oh, he has a knee issue. He has to go to physical therapy.”
So down the chain of command, they knew something was going on, but they also had to keep it justifiable, in a way, until “let's get him out of here, and let's go full-time with this, basically, dissecting tissues of unknown origin.”
And that's where I got sucked in and was just getting obsessed with what I was doing.
David: And you said this was Kirtland Air Force Base?
Emery: Yes, this was Kirtland Air Force Base, where I . . .
Yes, that's where I started.
David: Where is that?
Emery: Albuquerque, New Mexico. I was not just working there, I was moonlighting doing this other stuff after hours, and that had to do with Sandia and Los Alamos labs.
David: Sandia. Okay.
Emery: Yeah, Sandia Labs is another secured location on Kirtland Air Force Base.
Emery: Yeah. It's like a base within a base that goes underground many, many stories.
David: So let's start to break into this a little bit.
David: And I've talked to you about this . . . I've gotten bits and pieces of this from you over a decade now.
David: And as time has gone on, you've been able to share more. You've been authorized to tell me more. So let's just put this on the record right now.
Can you confirm that you have been authorized to disclose what we're talking about now? That this is officially okay at this time?
Emery: My NDA [non-disclosure agreement] has expired, but I am still . . . I am not going to talk about something that I don't feel comfortable talking about if I don't believe it's something that would put you or me in harm until that comes.
But what I'm saying now, I believe, is going to be fine.
Emery: I've not been threatened ever for any of that. The only time I was ever threatened is when I brought the DNA back from Atacama from Spain, illegally, from Barcelona.
And I thought when the government, when I was getting threatened, and they tried three assassination attempts on me, . . .
David: I remember.
Emery: It was very horrifying. I thought it was because that I took the DNA from, you know, over there, brought it here, and snuck it to Stanford, and it had nothing to do with that.
It had to do with someone getting upset with me because I resigned and then putting three compartmentalized labs that, during my work with this group, had their own team, their own wet teams, we call them, to come and do the little dirty work. [A “wet team” is an assassination team.]
But I was able to get out of that, thank goodness, to help from, actually, the U.S. government. And some military and CIA officials, Army and CIA officials, really helped out and turned around and threatened back.
And it was not only me, but it was also another colleague of mine that were working on that Ata [Atacama] being. And it was . . . Immediately, everything stopped. And I thought they just told me when I was taken to the wet room, because I was escaping where I was in Florida, getting all these threats.
They just flew me right there, next thing you know. And I just said, “What did I do? Why am I here?”
And they just . . .
David: Now, just so people . . . in case they don't know, the “wet room” has got tile on the walls, the floor, a drain in the middle of the floor, and the “wet” is your blood, basically.
Emery: Yeah. It's equipped, you know . . . This is where they take people and kill them, and it's an easy clean up. You've got a nice, big drain, a bunch of hoses.
Emery: And a huge disinfectant system.
David: And you knew what this was when they took you into it.
David: And you were very intimidated.
Emery: I've seen different types of wet rooms, not for humans, but for other things and other compartmentalized projects, but never in Washington, D.C.
So they just said, “You violated your contract.”
And I said, “Before you kill me, could you please show me and tell me where I violated my contract, and I'll be happy with that.”
I said, “You know EVERYTHING about me. You have your own satellite on me. You know every phone, text message. You know everything.” Everything is bugged. It's like, what did I do? Just tell me.
And eight hours later, I was sweating in this room, and they came back. They said, “We're very sorry, Mr. Smith. It was an internal problem, and you will never have to worry about that again. We apologize.”
Emery: And it was a really beautiful moment, because the first time that I felt like the Alliance of people in there were trying to protect me or trying to do something positive, besides expose me or hurt my family or, you know . . .
David: You go to Sandia, . . .
David: . . . and . . .
Emery: Well, I'm already living there on the base.
Emery: I already have my own place on the base. And I work at a hospital off the base. The VA [Veterans Administration] Kirtland Air Force Base Hospital is actually off-base, which is odd.
And don't forget, Kirtland Air Force Base is the fifth largest base in the world, and that's where they used to hide the nukes in the mountains.
David: Oh, wow!
Emery: And I've shown my handlers and people just flying over there to see the doors – those giant doors. But they're not used for that anymore. They're used for other things.
David: Well, we have New Mexico and Nevada near each other. And, of course, we have Area 51 in Nevada.
Emery: They're all connected.
David: So have you ever ridden the sub-shuttle system?
Emery: Only from Sandia to Los Alamos, and I might have went to Dulce and back, but I don't know where it stopped . . .
Emery: . . . because they had to do something. There's four of them, and . . .
David: Four of what?
Emery: These maglev-type trains.
Emery: But from what I just recently heard, they're all upgraded, updated and completely different – more like a vacuum-tube magnetic thing.
Emery: And that's some other stuff I worked with. Just because of the tissue regeneration stuff I was involved with, a lot of the craft, . . . that I was brought into different projects to look at the craft, because the craft are actually alive.
David: Oh, wow!
David: The craft were alive.
Emery: The craft were alive, and they were conscious. Yes.
David: This is similar to what we heard from David Adair, where he described going to Area 51 and seeing this power system that was actually a living being.
David: But it was this very large thing that had like . . . It looked like a skeleton over the surface of it. It had tissue components, but it also had technology components. It was some weird blend of technology . . .
Emery: That's right. It's right. It also . . . And that's already started. And I was part of that movement too, where we formulated tissue into titanium. It's called osseointegration.
Emery: Yeah. So that's a good one to get into at some point because that's what led us in the underground projects to say, “Man, if we can have tissue and titanium to be together, and I can make your bone tissue and titanium, you're going to be pretty strong, Dave. It's going to be hard for me to break that bone.”
And then add stem cells to that and platelet-rich plasma, which increases bone density up to, sometimes, 10 times.
Emery: Your own bone. Keep that in mind.
David: So that sounds a lot like “Wolverine” in the “X-men” movies.
Emery: Absolutely. So yeah, that's osseointegration, where they just, basically, you know, made him all these steel protective plates, but he also had a super ability to heal very quickly.
Emery: And that's the secret. That's what they all want to know: how do we have no downtime?
And now not do we not have any downtime, . . . and not just for the super soldier programs I was part of. I'm talking about the soldier programs that you don't hear about – the more upper-level Cabal, Majestic-type secret corporation levels, where they're trying to anti-age you.
And now that this new protein has just been discovered, A2M, Alpha 2 Macro Globulin, holy moly.
Emery: They just . . . They just turned back time.
And now that that's out, I can tell you right now, probably in 5 to 10 years – it will probably take 10 years for the FDA . . . What this does is it's a protease inhibitor, which means it blocks all inflammation. So the body can heal itself.
Emery: See, everything you have that you need to survive forever, or for a very long time, is already in your body. The problem is these fields around us and these . . . the foods we eat. Everything is poisoned.
Emery: So it makes us have inflammation. And I don't care if you're in a car accident, or if you have a disease, it all starts with inflammation.
Now, if I can stop inflammation, your body will heal itself naturally.
David: Hmm. That's very exciting.
Emery: Very exciting. And that by the way, that A2M, I did not discover that. I was just part of a project that specialized in that, and that's how I learned it all.
Emery: And so I'm so excited now. It's here for the civilians, and it's all over.
David: Right. So let's talk about how you got started with extraterrestrial biology. Were you aware at first that you were autopsying ETs?
David: How did they do that?
Emery: They . . . ha, ha . . . and it was really funny, too, because the entrance to where I was going was Sandia Labs, but it wasn't like in their compound. It was another little building. But it goes down 30 some floors.
And when I got down there, and they took me down these hallways, and they were just . . . On my first day, I just remember, I was in this little room, kind of like you would see in the movies where the room's kind of all white with the little table, steel table, and all these instruments there. And you're escorted to this place.
And you get in there, and there's this piece of tissue. And it's all positive pressure air system.
And so I go in there – and you do scrub out, just like a surgeon scrubs and puts his gowns on and the hoods and stuff. You do go in there, do all that.
And you label like you would like when we're in a biology school frog.
Emery: You're like, okay, this is a muscle. This is a tongue, or whatever. And I was just there to label and take small samples and put them in these different types of jars and vats and containers, which I would then push through a drawer in a wall, and someone else would take it, and that was it.
So I was basically taking tissue samples from whatever piece of tissue it was. Some looked like salmon. Some looked like . . . I don't even know. I can't even explain it.
But it then, every three to six months, you get a upper security clearance. So I stayed with that.
David: So you had described to me before that you called them salmon filets. Like when you first got started, would it be like a square, like this big or something? [David holds up both hands and makes a square shape about six inches on a side.]
Emery: Yeah. Yeah, it was like a perfectly cut square . . .
Emery: . . . with arteries, veins, nerves, just different types of tissues. Different types of cellular tissues, I mean.
Sometimes you would find cartilage in a weird area, you know. And sometimes you would see neural matter. But it was always different.
And then the samples started getting more intact, where you could tell that, whoa, this is a hand, you know.
And I could not tell you what that is at that point. I couldn't even say . . . And you're not allowed to ask ANYTHING. You just do that, and you don't talk to anybody, and that's your job, and that's it.
David: What if you told your friends or your family? Like were you given security briefings about that?
Emery: Yes. That I would be killed!
David: Now you say “a hand”. I mean, describe what the hand might look like. Give me one example of a hand.
Emery: Well, imagine every creature on this planet that has a hand, and evolution them a billion years from now to have the five star . . .
David: Like the human star.
Emery: Human star. And so you might have a very small hand, and it might look like a frog, but it's just a little bit different. But it's a palm. Like, it's got prints.
Emery: It's got nails. It could be something like a raccoon hand. But we're talking everything's different now.
The most fascinating ones were the giant insect. These hands were just enormous. And they were not only living tissue, they were plant tissue as well.
Emery: Yes. So they had some sort of thing they were making or growing that involved plant tissue with some other sort of living tissue, which they would mix many different types of hybrid tissues together. It's old school. Everybody knows that in these projects.
And it's . . . You've probably heard about it out there. They've mixed every type of animal tissue, DNA, with every . . . with human to see what happens.
David: Like Dulce, New Mexico.
Emery: Yeah, all that kind of crazy stuff.
And then they started adding and adding and adding. And then when they started getting things from up there [space], that's when it got weird.
Emery: So whether or not this was an extraterrestrial [showing with his hands that he means one item, say, on a table], I couldn't say at that time, because I know they could have grew whatever this was and killed it, chopped it up in little, bitty pieces, sent it to all these places.
I wasn't the only technician doing this, you know.
David: Right. One of the things that I'd really like to drill into a lot more is if you can give us a much more exacting description of the facility that you worked in. So let's talk about that.
Let's talk about even something as simple as, is there a parking lot, or do you have an underground parking garage?
Emery: Yes, exactly.
Emery: Kind of like you hear the stories about people flying out to Nevada or whatever to go to Area 51. There's only one way in and out.
Emery: Well, with these places, there's multiple places in and out, depending on where you're going to be working and what section.
And they're very large underground facilities. I mean, they're . . . We're talking up to 100 acres of multilevel facilities down there, with many special wings that do certain things.
Emery: Some works on energy propulsion, some works on regeneration. Some works . . . There's a whole medical thing to it too, and there's actually a small little city of people that actually live there that do not come to the surface, usually, that I'm aware of.
Emery: And it's a very dynamic setup.
So for me, since I was already living on the base, it was easy because I just road my bicycle to this small building.
So the small building, which you would just think would be a fire tower or whatever, is actually just in the middle of a big area. And there's . . . You could park 1,000 cars there if you want. No one would even think anything.
Emery: So you go in, and you take an elevator down, and you get on a big hallway. It's an escalator. And the escalator, just like you would see at an airport, . . . and then the escalator's really long.
You're on the escalator for about 10 minutes.
David: Oh, wow!
Emery: So you're actually going somewhere else . . .
David: And it's moving fast?
Emery: Yes, it's very fast.
Emery: Yes. You can actually sit down on it.
David: What are you seeing? Is it a tunnel?
Emery: Just a tunnel.
Emery: It's a hallway. It's white, and it has a black marble ceiling, like black onyx.
David: Oh! Oh, wow!
Emery: I don't know what it is, if it's . . . they can see through it, but it's a very different . . . Back then, that was very different to see, of course. And the tunnel is not big.
David: Do you think that one of these underground drilling machines could have made that tunnel, possibly?
Emery: Oh, yeah. The heat one did - the one that melts rock into a molten . . . That's how they made all the lava. They basically make lava tubes now.
Emery: And that's what they're still doing all over.
Emery: Making an underground freeway to go anywhere you want in the world.
David: Now, when we think of an escalator normally, there's vertical metal grooves that are all side by side, and there's teeth between each layer.
Emery: No, no, no. This is completely flat and made of some sort of polycarbonate. And you couldn't see through it. And there's . . . You can stand or sit in the chair.
David: Oh, there's a chair?
Emery: Yeah. Yeah.
David: But you're on like a track, and it's moving.
Emery: You're on a track, and it's moving.
David: So what you're describing to me sounds like an extremely cool, futuristic tunnel that you're riding through. Like already, you're going to be pretty inspired.
Emery: Yeah, I mean, it makes Epcot look like a joke. Ha, ha.
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Emery: No offense. I know a guy who built that, too. But it's just like . . . At that time, you have to understand the year that we're talking about. In the early '90s, it was very fantastical to be part of all of this.
So when you get to the end, you go through your check station.
David: What does it look like? Where are you? What do you see?
You were in a tunnel, but what do you see once you get off the . . .
Emery: There's glass doors there, seamless. They open up like you would see in Star Trek. Like “whoosh!” They open up.
David: Oh, wow!
Emery: And there's these two stations. And if there's someone in both stations, you have to wait outside the glass. Other people might be before you, checking in.
David: Oh, they're being interviewed or something?
Emery: Yeah, they're being checked in.
Emery: And so there's two other glass stations. So when you go, this opens up. Now you have a security check guy here [on the left] and a security check guy here [on the right].
David: So what would happen with these soldiers at the desks? What do you . . .
Emery: Well, they check your palm print and your retina scan. And then you show them your card – a very generic card.
David: And does the soldier talk to you? Do you have questions you have to answer?
Emery: Yeah, they ask questions, anywhere from just a couple, or sometimes they would be like, they're just like, “Go ahead.”
So they were doing this with people, and they had these special animals. They were dogs, but special dogs.
David: Special meaning what? They looked different than a dog?
Emery: They were somehow trained, or maybe a hybrided. They were a little bit larger, looked like a German Shepherd-Mastiff mix and a bloodhound.
Emery: And they were there, and they were in like just a compartment, but they can smell you as you walk by them. For sure, you cannot walk by them without them smelling you.
And they always know how to . . . They go . . . They just right away smell.
And then you've got to go through two more doors, and now you're in the locker room. And they're gender doors.
Emery: Female locker room and male locker room.
So in your locker room, you take your clothes off, and you put these scrubs on. They're kind of like scrubs, like a jumpsuit thing.
You go outside the next door, which has nothing to do now . . . there's a whole wall there. Now you're in another corridor, and there's a room on the right, and that room is where your orders are, and that's where you pick up your folder and your band.
Emery: Okay. So . . .
David: Does somebody tell you your orders?
Emery: Well, they're usually just there. And sometimes there are – like, we call them the managers – are in there, because there is something they want to say to you. They already know a half hour away that you're coming.
Emery: So everyone knows everything, especially now that you've got your band on.
So they come in, and they'll say, “Hey, we got this, this.” They'll debrief you on like, “We got this, this, this, and just make sure you do that and that.”
And then you get out, and then there's the white guards, now. And they escort you. Or, if there's not a white guard there, you follow the color strips.
David: What are color strips?
Emery: Color strips are when you're walking down this beautiful, white hallway, there are wings of operating rooms, okay, pressurized operating rooms. Looks like you're getting in a 747 jumbo jet, because the doors are these cool, big, hexagon vacuum-sucked doors.
Emery: And the colors correlate to the wing you're going to work in that day. And that just tells you how many wings go down there. Each wing can have up to 30 to 50 rooms.
Emery: Yeah, of these types of vacuum rooms.
David: And how many floors do you think there are?
Emery: Where I was?
Emery: Oh, over 50.
Emery: Over 50 floors, just in the medical one.
David: So once we understand exactly what you're doing, then the number of extraterrestrial bodies that these guys have must be staggering.
Emery: Oh, it's unreal. I mean, it's a . . .
David: And you said you never really saw much repetition in the type of stuff that you saw, once we get to that point in the story.
Emery: Right. No, it was different work.
David: It's always different.
Emery: Always different. But the thing was this, did they grow that here? You know?
David: We don't really know.
Emery: It's disinformation too, because they're going to throw a couple of disinformation things at you in case one day I go public. And no one is going to believe me that I saw a 10-foot Reptilian going down a . . . I mean, being escorted down the hallway.
David: You're saying you did see a Reptilian?
Emery: I'm saying I saw a lot of cloned, hybrid, 3D-printed beings. Whether they were conscious or not, I do not know. They're really good at sci-fi effects, too, to mess with scientists, or to threaten them if they feel they're about to go public, and they would talk, when you work there.
So the best way to do that is to show them something that's completely horrifying, and then they think they're going to go say something, or leave, or do whatever. But now that they know it really does exist, but does it? Is it real?
Emery: I don't know. I can't tell you. I don't know.
Emery: Just because you see it, doesn't mean it's real.
Emery: The same thing with the new satellites we have with . . . we're projecting stuff on cars, on the ground, and cast shadows now. Palpable systems that look like I'm right here, but I'm really not right here.
David: You're saying they could project something that looks just like a car, with a shadow, but it's not really a car? It's just a projection from a satellite?
Emery: It's a projection of a car that is palpable.
Emery: But you can go right through it, if you were to really walk up to it.
Emery: But enough to put that amount of atoms into an area and reflect light.
Emery: Which is a whole 'nother ball game.
Emery: So it's hard for me to say, ''Yeah, I saw this craft,'' or ''I saw this ET,'' or ''I saw this hybrid,'' or whatever, unless I actually touched it and felt it and walked on it and tested it myself.
David: Okay. Well, since we have talked about those types of beings before, instead of giving you any front loading, could you be more specific in describing . . . You said it was 10 feet tall, but could you describe a little more about what it actually looked like?
Emery: I was just using that as an example.
Emery: But I will describe other ones that I've seen.
Emery: And other ones I've seen were anywhere from 8 to 13 feet tall down to just 22 inches.
David: Hmm. But some of them, you said, were alive, like they might be carrying it as if it was their prisoner?
Emery: Well, yeah.
Emery: Yes. And that's the reason I kind of opted out after 10 years, because I felt that something wasn't going right, because one of the bodies I received was warm.
Emery: So I knew it just, obviously, passed. So then I put in my thing, got honorably discharged, and got out of the contract work, and kept my mouth shut for 15 years, 10 years.
David: So a warm body means that it might have been killed right before you had to autopsy it?
Emery: Right. But I have seen live extraterrestrials face to face.
David: Or something that was ET-like.
Emery: ET-like or hybrid or clone. Cloned individual from an ET.
David: Okay. Let's get back now to your colored lines.
David: I want to get us into the room before we end this episode.
David: What happens when you get to your door?
Emery: Well, every corridor, don't forget, has the white security guys there.
Emery: So you're never going to not see these guys.
Emery: They're posted on every corridor. Corridors can go very, very far.
David: There's no private area, then.
Emery: No way! There's NO private areas. Yeah.
Emery: So what you've got to do is, when you get there, then you have to go through the pressurized area to put your suit on.
Emery: And that's the clean area, the sterile area.
David: So there's like an air lock in between the door and the operating room.
Emery: And now you put more . . .
David: Now, you put more . . .
Emery: And those two technicians run that with the two soldiers, right, the white guys.
David: So you have your scrubs already, but then you put on additional equipment?
Emery: You have to put . . . Oh, yeah. You have to put on the suit.
David: And what is the suit?
Emery: Like a space suit. It's a very lightweight spacesuit, like you'd see in the movies. It's all glass. You have your own little oxygen that you plug into the wall of your unit. So you don't have to carry anything. It's very lightweight.
It's made out of like a Gore-Tex, polyurethane substance. It's waterproof. It's completely air proof.
I mean, you have your own air recycling in there. You have your own speaker comm unit. You can communicate.
And the gloves that you're wearing on these suits are the same gloves we use in surgery. They're very ambidextrous, very sterile.
Sometimes you will have to use certain gloves that are made out of something else that I don't know, because they don't want certain latex or non-latex things to be touching . . . to actually destroy whatever you're touching.
David: I see.
Emery: So there's different types of suits for different types of autopsies.
David: So you said . . . I'm trying to see this. You have like a hose that you're going to plug into the wall . . .
David: . . . once you go through the airlock?
Emery: You get to the airlock, . . . You know, you're escorted by the security guys. And they open the air lock, just like you would see on a Navy ship, kind of . . . like on a . . . Some have clamps, and some have these little things.
And then you go in, and you're suited, and you just plug your stuff in.
There's two cords: oxygen and an electrical comm cord.
Emery: And you can still hear them if they wanted to talk to you in there without that, in case it failed.
David: So could you just briefly describe what it looks like once you're inside the OR now?
Emery: It's seamless. It's got a white-pinkish-tinge to the walls and everything. It's kind of oval.
And all of the entire walls actually have . . . can come out in different types of sections. And the sections might be . . . the body will be on this board. And then the other section walls will have all these other tools you're going to need to do it, to do whatever you're gathering or for the testing.
David: Right. So once you actually see these salmon filets, you said it started with salmon filets, but then you upgraded at some point to an arm with a hand.
What was the time interval between salmon filets, and arms, and then, eventually, full bodies? Could we talk about that for a second?
Emery: Yeah. That took about, I think, 16 months. You get three to six months security upgrades if you behave and keep your mouth shut.
Emery: I mean, it happens fast, because they go through so many people. And I really wanted to learn this. I was so captivated by it, so I did what they wanted me to do. And then it got more and more stranger, and I would get better and better samples.
And it was frustrating because you're not allowed to ask, well, “What is this from? Where is it?” Or, “How do you get it?” Or . . . You're just there to do the sampling and get out, you know?
And then once the bodies came . . . that was probably after maybe 10 months when partial bodies, not full bodies . . .
Emery: I didn't get full bodies until way at the end, and then I got out because I got emotional about it, I guess.
David: Could you describe for us the very first partial body that you saw? What did it look like? And we'll end the episode with that.
Emery: Yeah. It was a leopard-colored skin. It was the torso. It looked like it got blown up. And it had Reptilian skin. It had normal body parts like we have on our insides. So I did see a spleen, a heart, lung.
The face was too distorted and destroyed, so I couldn't tell you what the face looked like, but it had perfect, normal bone structure like we do. And it was just . . . The skin was beautiful. It was iridescent blue leopard skin.
It reminded me of growing up in the Everglades with the leopard frogs, where they had those round circles and peacock feathers mixed.
Emery: Yeah. That color . . . That distinct, round . . . It was very smooth skin.
David: Did it scare you the first time you got a partial body?
David: Were you like, “Oh, my god! What's going on here?”
Emery: Yeah. I was in shock. They're measuring my heart rate, by the way, the whole time. They're measuring how I'm reacting.
So I kept cool, and they didn't ask me, “Hey, are you all right?” one time, because I was only allowed to operate on one part of the body. And I wanted to know more, you know?
Emery: Because there are certain tissues, I realized, from clones, than from real extraterrestrials and from humans, that the cloned tissue isn't as strong as the ones they grow.
Our tissue's really strong, but … And depending on how long they've been, of course, dead, or how long it's been frozen, or whatever conditions they have had it in.
But when you get fresh stuff, . . . and sometimes they'll tell you it is, sometimes they won't. And you can tell that the ones that are fake are more friable. So that means you barely try to get something out of them, it just, like, melts away.
So it's a very interesting dynamic as far as the tissues are concerned.
David: Emery, why do you feel like coming forward today? What are some of the events that have just happened that have impelled you to finally break your silence after a decade of me telling you, “Hey man, you really ought to come forward?”
Emery: Well, you know, I didn't think that's up to me, you know, because I'm a very just neutral . . . You know, I don't even watch a lot . . . I don't watch a lot of these shows, and I like to stay neutral, so nothing influences me.
Emery: And recently . . . [PAUSES, BECOMES EMOTIONAL; TEARS] You know, it's got . . . It's been getting a little violent.
David: We have a photograph of a head-on collision that you suffered 30 minutes after I leaked more of your information in an article.
And you're very lucky to be alive.
Emery: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's . . . I've been shot at, been stabbed, been jumped by three agents, got my butt kicked. I mean, that's . . . I've been through it all.
But it was not . . . it was . . . I don't believe it was because of THAT stuff.
I think when they knew I went energy, when I started doing more of the energy stuff, they REALLY got angry.
Emery: And that's where I lost everything. They broke into my house.
I mean, rammed my gate, my concrete gate, down, you know, where all this stuff was stored.
And cut into the walls where things and safes were hidden that you can only know by satellite, using . . . These people definitely had perfect satellite imagery of . . . You know, I KNOW about the satellites very well and the stuff they can do with them.
They can look into every brick and every wall of the house.
David: Wow! It's unbelievable. I'm very glad that you made it here alive, that we're doing this now.
We're going to try to get as much on camera as we can for your safety.