Season 9, Episode 6
David Wilcock: All right. Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I'm here with our special guest, Emery Smith. And Emery has some absolutely stunning information, and he has taken great risks to bring us what he's going to share today.
Emery, welcome back.
Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate being here.
David: It's good.
Emery: Yeah. It's fun.
David: I'm really glad you finally decided to do this. I think it's long overdue.
Emery: I know, you've been trying to get me to do this for 10 years, but certain recent events have persuaded me maybe it's for my better safety that we do this, and also to educate the public, and people deserve to know.
I've believed that my whole life, but I know there's also a time for everything.
David: Yes. Now, it seems with a lot of the insiders I've spoken to, that once we dig into their life before the military, that there was something going on before they ever even went in.
And I'm curious: have you had unusual experiences prior to military service that you think may be relevant to share with us today?
Emery: Absolutely. It's personal, but I can tell you right off hand that my grandfather was in the Army, and my father was in the Navy, but when I was born, he was already out of the Navy. And I always wanted to be in the military.
I think I had my first extraterrestrial visit in 1979.
Emery: And it was at our five acre farm in Fort Myers, Florida. And that was the first contact I ever had, and it was a very pleasant contact. I'll never forget it.
I was not contacted after until 19 . . . between . . . around 1999, '98, where it was like a complete landing and . . . That one was a little bit startling because I was camping out and wasn't ready for it, because it startled me at night because I had just laid down, and I heard some footsteps walking up.
So that turned out . . . That was like the two experiences. The other one's after the military, by the way, but it was just a little bit shocking. But the first one was when I was very young.
But after that, I was obsessed with, of course, laying under the stars. I probably slept more outside of my house than I did inside the house, gazing up at the stars.
David: Could you tell us a little more about the contact in Fort Myers, Florida? Was there a craft that you saw that landed and then what happened? Describe the craft. Describe exactly what happened.
Emery: Exactly what happened was, I had laid down to go to sleep in my sleeping bag, and when I looked up, . . .
David: You were outdoors?
Emery: I was outdoors. Yeah.
Emery: We had a big farm out there.
Emery: . . . in the middle of the field. In the middle . . . You know, there's nothing around.
And, you know, a flaming disk comes very . . . a 45° angle. It just comes right out of the sky but moving VERY slow, but red hot.
You could see the orange glow.
David: How large was it?
Emery: Well, from where I was at, and it was probably at least 2,000, maybe 1,000 meters away, and I saw it go into the woods. And I heard it. And I said, “Oh, it was probably just a meteor.” And wow, it was like the most brilliant meteorite I'd ever seen. But I also noticed that it had a very odd shape.
So I just didn't think anything of it. And it actually landed closer than I thought: in the neighbors, just a couple acres over, 5 or 10 acres over, in their swamp.
And one of the extraterrestrials came out and walked over. And I was next to a barbed-wire fence – you know, the one you keep cows in with, four lines, sometimes five if they're big.
Emery: I used to put up fences. You know, these little hooks that you put that barbed-wire fence . . . you know, but that nail to hold the barbed-wire fence against the pole, right, that little hook?
Emery: So some of them were kinda loosened, you know. And I laid out a tarp all the time. And then I put my sleeping bag on the tarp.
So I laid down, and I'm in the bag, and I always . . . you know, being who I am, tactical Emery, I always have my gun with me. I did have my gun with me in my sleeping bag. And I was in a mummy sleeping bag, and it was very cold.
And I heard a, “Ugu, ugh”, like someone jumping the fence – just as if I would climb the fence. And as the fence gets pushed down, it goes to the metal in the hooks . . .
Emery: It's like, “Ur, ur, ur,” and then “bump, bump” on the ground. And I'm like, “Okay. All right. Skunk ape, bear . . .”
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Emery: “. . . panther?” Ha, ha.
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Emery: And I'm just like, “Oh, right now?” Immediately, I'm listening to the footsteps. And I'm very attuned to that kind of stuff.
Emery: I felt a little like uneasy. So I know, maybe it was just me, or maybe it was this being. So I immediately just grabbed my zipper, and I already had my gun in my hand, and I unzipped, and with my gun and flashlight just stood up, and there was a three-foot being right there looking at me.
David: What did it look like?
Emery: It was blue-gray, and it had big blue eyes. And it had a little thing on its head like you see in the movies, like we see in cartoon characters.
David: Like an antenna?
Emery: Yeah, a little like an antenna.
David: When you say it had blue eyes . . . So we're not talking about a Grey?
Emery: No. No. It was very scrawny, and it was blue. And it . . .
David: Like what color blue? Like your shirt?
Emery: Yes. It was this kind of blue. And with the light on it, and me, I'm still stuck in my sleeping bag, and it looked at me, and I think the light really hurt its eyes.
It got like, “What, huh, oh! This is not going down right.” Or, “Huh, oh, I just crashed my craft. I'm just looking for the nearest help or assistance.”
So it's embarrassing to say, but I jumped up out of the sleeping bag, and I chased . . . because I see him walking . . . going [showing running with small legs] . . . and I'm chasing him, and he goes into this thicket.
And I'm not, you know, like chasing him to kill him. I'm just like, “Come back! Come back!”
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Emery: I'm chasing this thing, and he goes right through this thicket. It was so thick there's no way I could . . . I tried to go in there and got all cut up by the vines.
Emery: And then I hear, “Ur-ree, ur-ree.” And I look next . . . the fence is right next to me. And it gets really tight. Like he's over there jumping the fence again, heading back . . .
Emery: . . . to that area. So I was full of adrenaline. And, of course, it was really late at night anyway. But I did, I took a little hike in that area to that direction, but I couldn't see anything else.
So there was nothing exchanged on that. It was just a . . . I think we both startled each other. And that's what happened.
David: How human-like would the face appear for a regular person? Would it look like a regular person from Earth with blue skin? Or was there something different about the face?
Emery: Yeah, the face was fuller and more oval, like a bubble.
Emery: Like if you have a bubble and you just barely . . . If you get one of those plastic balls and you go like this [squeeze the ball with open hands].
But it had features. It had holes in its sides [of the head], not ear lobes but holes. And it was aware, more than 100% aware, and very agile.
David: Were the eyes larger than a regular human on Earth?
Emery: Yes, absolutely.
David: Like how much?
Emery: By at least three times.
Emery: Yes, it was more eye . . . Like the eye and the top of the cranium, it was larger.
David: But you said the eyes were blue.
Emery: Blue. Blue eyes.
David: So it didn't have the black like you see with a Grey?
Emery: No. When I say blue, you didn't have white. It was blue eyes. I didn't see any pupils. But it could have been its protective layers. They have these lenses, a lot of the extraterrestrials, they wear over their eyes.
David: It was a solid-color blue?
David: And did it have a nose, or just . . .
Emery: Yes, it had a nose – very small.
David: Very small. And a small mouth?
Emery: Very small mouth. Yeah.
Emery: And it was very, like, cartoonical. Like, “No way!” It was very comical in a way.
David: And how old were you at the time?
Emery: I was probably . . . ah, '98, I was 28.
David: All right. Well, let's go back to the first one, because this could be very relevant as we get into your military history.
David: What happened in the first event? Let's go through that step by step.
Emery: Okay. I had other multiple events after that, but I didn't understand what it was. I would always do a lot of sleepwalking when I was younger. And I was always outside in a hypnagogic state, but I was very aware, because I would always come back and mom and dad would see my feet were dirty every morning . . .
Emery: . . . and I'd have no idea . . . Many times they caught me just heading out or heading in.
Emery: And I never injured myself or anything like that.
On this particular evening, and it was not very late, I just was told to go outside telepathically.
David: How old were you?
Emery: I was in second grade, so it was probably around '79.
David: Okay. So you got the impulse to go outside.
Emery: Yeah . . .
David: But this had been happening to you before then?
Emery: No, this was the first.
David: Oh, this was the first time.
Emery: This was the first time that anything like that happened.
Emery: And then after that, it started happening all the time, I mean just going out, but not knowing why “I'm out here,” and seeing lights and stuff.
And so I said, “Okay.” So I went outside in the driveway. We had a lake, and I went up to the dock, and I just looked up, and there was this beautiful blue craft. And it was just silent.
And I was just so amazed that it was silent and this craft was there, and I'm smiling, you know, and I was like even singing. I was like, trying like, . . . I don't know. I was like, “Woo-oo!” I started whistling or something. It was very odd.
David: What did the craft look like? What was the shape?
Emery: It was blue, and it was disk-shaped.
David: What kind of blue?
Emery: Blue-white, like white. Not dark, not dark blue.
Emery: This was more like a whitish, bright . . . , but you could see detail, but you couldn't see edges. Does that make sense?
Emery: You could see outlines of this, you know, classic shape. And it was telepathically saying that “We're here,” and “We exist,” and, you know, “We're going to be back for you.”
Emery: And I remember very . . . like it was yesterday. And it always stuck in my head.
David: So . . .
Emery: It happened very shortly . . . I think it . . . The whole event lasted, maybe, a minute and a half, two minutes.
Emery: It's long. For that to happen today, it would not, because we would shoot you down in two seconds.
Emery: But back then, I think, it was a little bit different. I think they had a little bit more opportunity to make these types of meetings with, you know, not only me, but many other people.
Emery: And to allow them to give us hope and to strive for that later on in life.
So then I just became a really firm believer and all that stuff. And I really wouldn't talk about it that much. Neither would my family.
David: Do you think that either your father or your grandfather might have been involved in black ops [covert operations]?
Emery: Yes, my grandfather was in the Army.
Emery: Yeah. And my father flew in the Navy planes looking for the submarines coming in to the Bahamas and off the coast of Florida. So he was a spotter for that.
Emery: And he did some other things, but I don't think they were intelligence related.
David: You were on some kind of extraterrestrial-contact program it sounds like, and you're describing multiple events . . .
Emery: I don't know.
David: . . . of leaving your house at night . . .
Emery: Oh, yes
David: . . . and going outside. Do you feel like there are gaps in your memory from those events, or . . .
Emery: No, no.
David: . . . what do you think is happening when you go out there?
Emery: No, I remember a lot. When I was younger, I had this gift – I call it a gift. I can control my dreams. I know when I'm dreaming.
Emery: And it just recently came back to me, just recently, within the past couple months, where I can do it again.
I just lost it after I went into the military. I couldn't do it anymore – when I went into the military.
And I started the military early, age thirteen with . . .
Emery: . . . with the auxiliary of the Air Force, Civil Air Patrol, my dad introduced me to. And they were giving pilots licenses to kids for free if you qualified and wanted to be part of this thing.
Emery: And it's for people also before they go into the military so you get extra rank before you go in – kind of like ROTC, . . .
Emery: . . . which I did that too.
Emery: So you get all these perks. Yes, I got my pilot's license at a really early age.
Emery: I took many tests that . . . I just know one thing: I took a lot more tests than everyone else did going into the military. And they were not your normal ASVAB test.
David: Okay. Give me an example of something unusual as a test.
Emery: Well, you know, an ASVAB test is based off of . . . “What are you good at? Are you a good mechanic? Let's see if he can figure out this sprocket or this chain.”
Emery: “Or maybe he's good at writing. Does he know a verb, adjective or linguistics.”
David: And that might lead to your MOS – Military Operations Specialty. [Military Occupational Specialty]
Emery: And that's how they lead you out to your MOS.
But with my stuff, it had to do with geometric shapes.
Emery: Yeah, and like mandalas and like . . . “Out of these six, which one do you like?”
Like, “What do you mean, which one do I like?”
So to me, it wasn't a test. But it WAS a test for something! Because obviously, there's some sort of subliminal message in there – maybe some sort of encoding that I don't know about that I have or my lineage has.
David: These could be logos of certain ET groups that they might have been aware had already contacted you.
Emery: Right. Exactly.
Emery: So that's how I got pulled out of the Air Force part after I did my four and a half years and then still continued with the contract work.
David: Had you already done four and a half years in the Air Force before?
Emery: I did four and a half, and then two years of reserve, and then two years of inactive – so a total of four . . . eight and a half.
David: And it's after the four and a half years that you got the salmon filets and that whole thing started?
Emery: No, the first time I got the salmon filet was August 8th of 1991.
David: Wow! You're having these tests. Now, did these tests start all the way back when you were 13?
Emery: Yeah. They started in the auxiliary part. And then . . .
David: So one of them was geometric shapes. Could you give me another example of something that was bizarre as a test that you got?
Emery: There was a lot of high-end physics and magnetic questions, which I didn't understand at that point, but I scored high on it. But I'm really not . . . that's not my thing.
But, you know . . . so I had these amazing job opportunities when I went in the military. But I just wanted to be an F15 Eagle pilot, because I just wanted to fly. You know, Top Gun all the way.
But the Army offered me a huge scholarship that I could not refuse to fly Apache helicopters.
Emery: But all flight-related, you see, going towards, probably, being an astronaut, or NASA, or other space-related stuff.
Emery: Most pilots, or most astronauts, as you know, which it's now changed because they need scientific technicians . . .
Emery: . . . for specialty. And that's how I became like a payload specialist.
So getting back to why I was just so adamant that I was going to be a pilot, being just a kid, you know – a 16-year-old when I signed up, by the way – making these decisions.
And they said, “Well, you can also do this medical stuff.”
And I was like . . . And I loved going to the doctor and seeing all the stuff. I liked watching them cut out my ingrown toenails, . . .
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: . . . so they don't hurt so much playing soccer.
Emery: So, it amazed me . . . They're always like, “Sit down. Son, you don't want to look at this. We've got a lot of blood.”
And I'm like, “No, no, I want to see this.”
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: They're injecting me and like, “This kid is frickin' weird.”
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Emery: And all these surgeons, too, and these doctors, when I was really young, end up becoming my friends. And I end up becoming their teachers, because I got CME accredited [Continuing Medical Education] to teach them on platelet plasma and stem cells. It was really a funny circle.
David: What is CME accredited?
Emery: Physicians and nurses and all medical people, in order to keep your license, you have to go to symposiums and get updated on new educational properties. So, you know, Continuing Medical Education units.
David: Oh, Continuing . . . Okay.
So let's get back to when you are first brought to Sandia. And I think that's something . . . You've told me before about the process of how you got to the room.
Let's start with how . . . how you get brought in. Like, what was the first thing that you saw that would be a lot different than a typical military experience?
Emery: Well, being in the operating room and working emergency-type situations, and, you know, already knowing pretty much everything about the human body in the accelerated program I was in assisting surgeons.
Emery: I knew that when I walked into this place, that they had spent a lot of money on these . . . everything, even the doors, the security systems.
These amazing security guards, the demeanor of the scientists and physicians that were there, the technicians and everyone, it was VERY serious. It was very, very organized. And it was very clean.
And it took . . . You get debriefed first. You know, they take you . . . It's a huge background check, but I'm already on active duty. So I was perfect for them.
Emery: Young. You know, “If he messes up, who cares! You can just get rid of him. He died in a helicopter crash,” you know, whatever.
Emery: So, perfect subject, but super high IQ, very perfect – already has medical training. “Let's just see what he can do.”
So they brought me in this room first – and this was before I actually went to do my first case – and they just laid it all out.
David: Laid what out?
Emery: Laid these contracts out. I mean, just . . . It was so thick.
David: Like you were expected to read all that as you sit there? That doesn't make sense.
Emery: Well, of course, I didn't read it. I was 19 years old!
David: Ha, ha, ha.
Emery: I saw the page, and I was like, “Yeah!” I already signed up. I was already stupid enough to sign up to get into the military, so I was like, “Fine.”
And it's like, you know, . . . which I love, by the way, you know, the military. And they saved my life as much as, you know, made me the man who I am today. So I'm like a huge supporter of the military – still am to this day, which with other projects and things. So I didn't mean to make it sound like I'm not.
I was really thankful for that.
David: Well, we're very thankful for the Alliance . . .
David: . . . and the fact that they're turning the tables for us here.
Emery: I know!
David: It's amazing!
Emery: It is. All the white hats coming out. It's just a blessing.
David: And we need people like you to be brave enough to speak to the truth and say what they experienced.
Emery: Well, I'm hoping once . . . because I know a lot of these people. I'm hoping once they see me come forward that I really believe there's going to be a lot more come forward like within a year.
David: It's going to get easier too, . . .
David: . . . because the Cabal is being greatly defeated right now. And you have had a lot of briefings about that as well, which we can get into in later episodes.
Emery: Right. Sure.
David: So you get all these documents.
Emery: So I signed “the book”, and they make it very officious, all these people, you know, the cool lab coats, and other security people, but not in their normal black ops. They're in like clean suits, like really cool, white, tactical stuff.
David: Hm. Like jumpsuit kind of things?
Emery: Yeah, like a flight suit – white, but with a lot of cool straps and not normal guns. I don't think they can use guns down there because of the pressurized systems, is what I was told.
Emery: And I was always told never to bring MY weapon into the facility.
Emery: You use a locker room at the top. You basically change into scrubs, then go down and change into your suit. So it's like two change-out stations.
Emery: And you wear a band, which was the coolest thing ever. And this band felt like silicon. I later found out it was graphene, and it glowed.
And that recorded everywhere I went on the facility.
Emery: And they take it from you. And it also activated later on.
They had iPads back then that make these iPads look like a . . . I mean, thin as . . . You know the X-ray film, how flimsy that is?
David: Yeah, yeah.
Emery: You know, or the films from the . . . we used to use on the projectors?
David: Yeah, yeah.
Emery: Okay. Imagine that being an iPad, and flimsy, and being completely lit up, and accessing the entire main database of whatever section you were working in, and locating your supervisor if you needed to on . . . Everyone kind of knew where everybody was. [There was] nowhere to hide or sneak anything out.
Anyway, you had this cool iPad that was always with you, and you used it for data entry for all the stuff you do because everything's documented.
David: If it's so flopsy, how would you be able to type on it?
Emery: Oh, that's easy. Everything was with your finger, and they had a stylus. And the stylus looked like a thermometer.
Emery: And it had a very grippy texture to it. And you could hold it, this flimsy . . . It's not THAT flimsy. It's a little bit stronger than that. But it's like that kind of material. It's like a special polycarbonate that, I think, was infused, of course, with probably graphene or some other . . . or, you know, something photovoltaic, obviously, to do all this stuff.
And anyway, it would always be down on something. It's not a text paper. This is something where it is always on your counter, you're using your little thing, your finger, or whatever, and it also interlocks into other . . . Every room has like a hub, like you plug your iPhone into?
Well, this thing, when you lay it down on a table, the whole table now knows this.
David: Oh, wow! That's cool!
Emery: So it's just like this Bluetooth-type energy.
David: And it's full color?
Emery: Yes. Oh, brilliant full color. Three-dimensional objects. You can . . .
David: Oh, holographic too.
Emery: Holographic too.
Emery: Yes, especially when you put it on the tables, the tables become like the actual 3D part of whatever you're presenting.
Emery: So, if I did get a body, and that's already been 3D scanned, the body, that can be projected above the table. And then you can move it with your hands.
David: Oh, wow!
Emery: And you can say, “Hey, so I don't know what this is here in the body. We want just this. So cause the least amount of damage to get just this organ or this little BB out.”
So it was a very . . . and that just TURNED ME ON, because I was a techie, and I was young, and I didn't want to ever mess up. And I just wanted to keep going.
David: And at the time, right, the time window you're describing, all we had was like these desktop tower computers that were ridiculous.
Emery: My goodness, we had those big bulky . . .
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: I don't even know if Apple even came out, . . . even had their comeback yet.
Emery: They just were. So the wrist band, the little iPad floppy thing, was a very important thing that's always kind of with you. And . . .
David: Could you roll it up and keep it in your pocket, or how would you carry the little floppy iPad?
Emery: Well, you don't have anything on you ever but this band and this piece of paper.
Emery: You don't have any . . . You . . . I can't have a watch, can't have a piece of jewelry in this facility. Everything has been stripped from you when you do your two change-outs.
David: Corey, on this show, has talked about a smart-glass pad. And it sounds a lot like what you're describing. What was it called? Did they ever have a name for it?
Emery: It was always just called “the folder”.
David: The folder.
Emery: Yeah, the folder. There was no fancy-like Star Trek name or anything.
David: Right. Well, a lot of times it seems like to, as they call it, “reduce psychological impact” . . .
David: . . . they try to give you these conventional things.
Emery: Ah! That makes sense.
David: Yeah. Right. So it's just a folder.
Emery: Yeah. “Don't forget your folder and your band.” “Okay.”
David: Ha, ha. Did the band do anything else besides just glow? You said it glowed, or . . .
Emery: Yeah, every now and then, it would glow. I think it was just because someone was accessing your whereabouts, especially when there's breaches.
Emery: There was a couple of breaches when I was there of things escaping. And there's also a scientist technician like me that did try to take some stuff out of the facility.
Emery: And when that thing glows a different color – there's like different colors for different things . . . And, you know, just do not move and don't go anywhere until whatever is . . . the emergency is going on. Like in hospitals, we have Code Reds and Code Blues, and all this stuff. It's similar to that, that not. . . You know what to do or not to do.
David: What were some of the colors you can remember and what they meant on the band?
Emery: Red means you better not move.
David: Just don't even move at all.
Emery: Yeah. Blue is “everything's fine”. There was one yellow, which means “breach”. Contamination breach.
Emery: Yeah. Not just . . . No, not like someone stole something. Someone, somehow, had a hole in their suit or . . . because you have to understand these things have viruses. They have bacteria that we don't even know. It can kill you.
Emery: It could mutate. The last thing you want is that out. So they have these artificial intelligence systems in place, and these super-high scrubbers, and like the most amazing disinfecting-type of air handlers you would not even believe.
Emery: And even walking through some of these things, when you have your change out, didn't hurt or anything, but it was just a precautionary thing.
But they have these vents in the systems that pick up on all particles, parts per million, and it could tell if like one small cold virus bacteria got into a vent, and goes and hits this thing. It's like everything gets shut down immediately.
David: And that's yellow, on the band?
Emery: That's yellow. Yeah. So you never want to see yellow.
David: Do you think that the band could tase you or kill you if you didn't move when it was red?
Emery: I had never felt threatened by that band at all.
David: Okay. Describe to me what a breach means. What did somebody do?
Emery: Well, one time, and this is just from . . . now, I can only say second hand.
I will always tell you if it was me talking first hand or second hand. Second hand means these alarms went off. Of course, we were later debriefed that someone tried to take something out. That's all.
So I don't know WHAT it is. I really was not allowed to ask what it is.
Emery: But that's what happened to ease everybody's calmness, you know, so everyone can start focusing again better. It's nerve-wracking if you hear ANY alarm there.
David: So you never found out what any of these breaches really were. They just give you a very vague . . .
Emery: One breach I did because my really close friend's husband was one of the security guys.
Emery: So they did have . . . made an awesome hybrid bear-type osseo-integrated being.
David: I don't know really what that means. Could you be more specific? A bear-type . . .
Emery: They made a hybrid animal . . .
Emery: . . . of some sort that resembled a giant grizzly bear.
David: Okay, but it was human-like?
Emery: But it had metal . . . yeah. But it had like metal talons made of some amazing . . . you know, it was osseo-integrated into his bone structure.
Emery: That means the titanium and tissue were together, or whatever metal. I don't know what the metal was. I'm . . . hypothetically just hypothesizing.
Emery: All I know is once it got out, they had a special truck to get this thing. I mean, it got to the surface.
Emery: It's going across the desert.
Emery: Yeah. Very fast. So they had to blow this thing up. And it was so indestructible that they only injured it, and then was able to put it into this special truck.
And the truck steel was eight inches thick – the cargo container.
David: Good lord.
Emery: And the marks in it were four inches deep . . .
Emery: . . . from that thing trying to whatever. It was probably trying to get . . . after they knocked it out or whatever.
So he was there on that. And he saw the marks in the truck as well.
David: Wow! That's crazy.
Emery: And, you know, he would . . . I consider him a very honest person. Plus, it was all over. Everybody knew about it.
Emery: Everyone knew there was this bad-bad. And that was from a different genealogy department on the base.
David: Well, I hate to leave you on a cliffhanger, but that's all the time we have in this episode. Very interesting story.
We're going to pick up more of this as time goes on.
David: And I want to thank you for watching. I'm David Wilcock here with our special insider guest, Emery Smith. Thank you for watching.