Cosmic Disclosure: Veiled Threats and Open Disclosures

Season 5, Episode 7

admin    06 Jul 2016
 SSP, Anshar, Kaaree, Earth Alliance, Trump    11,209


David Wilcock: All right, welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I'm here with Corey Goode. And you've been asking us and asking us and asking us for this, so this is the moment you've been waiting for. We are getting right down into it with the new updates, what is going on since we last were talking to Corey about the latest, greatest things that he's been experiencing.

And so I'm going to bring you up to date with where we were so that we have some orientation, you understand the jumping off point that we have, and where we're going.

How are you buddy?

Corey Goode: Doing well, thank you.

David: All right, cool. After you got through this epic tour of the Inner Earth, you met Kaaree, you have the library, you didn't immediately segue into telepathic contact with them, in fact, I remember you telling me you did not want them to contact you telepathically. You insisted . . .

Corey: Right. Yeah, I . . . Kaaree communicated with me through a telepathic teleconferencing kind of situation. And I have always demanded face-to-face contact, because there's too much that can happen with the information – you can be tricked, who knows.

David: Could you just describe what this telepathic teleconferencing was like? What did you experience?

Corey: Yes. It was like we were pulled into a area. I was not . . .

David: Well, who's “we”, first of all?

Corey: Well, she originally contacted me herself. It was just her and I.

David: And this is in your house, like you're lying in bed?

Corey: I was lying in bed, yes.

David: Were you told that you were going to have a meeting?

Corey: No.

David: Okay.

Corey: It was a surprise.

David: And was it the same time that you would usually have these meetings with Blue Avians, like 1 o'clock in the morning?

Corey: No. I don't even . . .

David: It could be any time.

Corey: Yeah, it doesn't matter.

David: All right.

Corey: And after I made that comment to her, she just kind of smiled at me like I was a child and said, “Before long all of your people will be communicating in a similar manner.”

David: So she just kind of dusted off your concerns about there being some sort of AI influence or Cabal influence, Draco, tampering with it.

Corey: Trickster beings, whatever. Yeah.

David: So could you just please describe for us a little bit more about . . . Is this like a discontinuous, out-of-body experience?

Corey: It was very similar, yes.

David: Really?

Corey: When I would look at her, she'd be sitting in one of those egg-shaped chairs.

1 Egg Chair

David: Right.

Corey: And I would just be standing there. And this kind of . . . I don't even know how to describe it. It's like a teleconferencing kind of room where you're kind of meeting. And we would converse. Other times . . .

David: Almost like in “The Matrix” where Neo and Morpheus show up together in this white room.

Corey: Yeah.

David: And they're projected into this, but they're able to have this conversation.

Corey: Right.

David: Interesting.

Corey: Yeah, similar to that.

David: And was there any equipment in this teleconferencing room?

Corey: No.

David: How big was it?

Corey: Well, the room seemed to just go on. It was . . . It went off into like light. I couldn't see walls.

David: Wow!

Corey: I couldn't see corners of the room. And the only equipment, I guess, in the room would be the egg-shaped chair she was sitting in. And she communicated with me mentally back and forth as we were together in this . . .

David: What did you talk about exactly during this meeting?

Corey: She was kind of . . . This was kind of a breaking the ice kind of showing me this new way of communication. And she let me know that Gonzales was staying with them. I wasn't given a reason. And he was down in the Inner Earth in their city living with them for a number of weeks.

David: Okay. Was there any contact that you had with the Blue Avians or with the Inner Earth beings after your Inner Earth visit before this meeting in what we'll call “the Construct”?

Corey: Most of my communication occurred with . . . It was of a personal nature with both Kaaree . . . I was brought down there another time, and also with the Blue Avians. It was more of a personal communication.

David: Okay. And from what I recall, it was after your visit with the Inner Earth in particular that harassment started to take place on a higher level.

Corey: Yeah. That and after I was starting to put forth information about there being a partial disclosure narrative that was coming and that some of the lower-level Secret Space Program had broken away from the Alliance and were now going to be a part of this program that was going to eventually going to be revealed to the public of the lower Secret Space Program. And I was speaking out . . .

David: I thought the lower Space Program was not a part of the SSP Alliance.

Corey: No, they had representatives.

David: Oh, they did

Corey: Yeah.

David: Okay.

Corey: Yeah. Not all of the different programs that . . . like DIA, all these different groups. Not all of them knew what was going on. There was a select few in the group. And they were breaking away while working inside their group, unbeknownst to the people they were working with.

David: So when did the first Chinook helicopter fly over your house? I think that was around this time too, wasn't it, like November of 2015, something like that? I think it was.

Corey: You know, it was November, December. The Chinook, yeah . . . I came out and I kept hearing this thwop, thwop, thwop noise. And I look out my window and the place that we're staying, the swimming pool, the water was just kind of all vibrating. And I walked out the door, and I look up, and there's a Chinook helicopter directly over my house with a guy.

I see a helmet looking out the side of a service window. And I couldn't believe it. I ran back in the house. I grabbed my phone, came out, was trying to get it all going. And they saw me get my phone ready, and they started to take off. And I caught it on video.

And I started videoing right as they were lifting off, turning, and then they did about three more revolutions of my house after that.

David: Are you near a military base? How far away were you from the nearest military base?

Corey: Well, the formal Carswell Air Force Base is in Fort Worth. It's about an hour away. But they . . . Very seldom are helicopters housed there.

David: And that's where you went as a kid?

Corey: Right.

David: Yeah.

Corey: And then we have Fort Hood, which is more like five or six hours away. And they have a large contingent of helicopters there.

David: Okay. You also mentioned something to me that was so sensitive that up until recently, you did not want to talk to anybody about this or disclose it publicly. But now you've given me the go-ahead to do so and that is that, I don't know if it was this time or another time that one of these helicopters came overhead, that as it's flying around, you're seeing what on your chest?

Corey: No. That was something different. I went outside with my son, and we were walking around in the backyard because he wanted to go outside. And I'm looking down at him, and I see something right here. [Corey points to his chest area.] And I look and it is a green laser dot on my chest. And I was out there with my son. So it was pretty upsetting. I nonchalantly put my hand on the back of his head and guided him back towards the door and said, “We're going inside.” He didn't . . . He just got out. He was wanting to play. He didn't want to go inside. I was like, “We've got to go inside.”

And I didn't tell my wife about it, because she's been dealing with a lot of emotional depression and stuff because of a lot of this stuff.

David: Now, you also described seeing suspicious activity outside your house, people walking around in black clothes, cars that were parked in the road, and then you'd look at them and they'd zoom off.

Corey: Yes. I was walking through the house. I keep weird hours. It was real early in the morning. And I look out and out by the stop sign and street sign, there's a guy all in black standing there holding something in his hand - I don't know what it was – looking at my house, just looking around.

So I don't know if it was some sort of operative or a thief casing the neighborhood, but it got my attention with everything else going on.

David: Now, also sometime during this period of the winter of 2015, you called me up and told me that an anomalous object appeared in your kitchen.

Corey: Yeah. We come and there's a Marlboro cigarette. It's just sitting out on our table. And that's been used as a warning in the past that people come in and they put a cigarette.

David: And you mentioned the Mafia, that this is like a Mafia or has been a Mafia-type of thing.

Corey: Yeah, a syndicate kind of thing. Yeah. To where . . . It's one of many ways that they'll send small warnings and let you know they can get in your house.

David: And is it like a message that you could be “smoked”, quote, unquote?

Corey: Pretty much. Yeah. Also, threats . . . It comes as threats of burning your house down. We can get in your house any time. We were in, you didn't know – to make you feel totally disempowered that at any moment someone could pop out and take you out or burn your house down when you're asleep.

David: Now, right in the middle of all this going on, Gonzales is seeming to be telling you that they wanted to fast track this partial disclosure, right? This isn't something that's going to take a long, long time.

Corey: Right.

David: They're potentially getting ready to make a big move.

Corey: Right. That was the biggest part of the negotiations between the Earth Alliance and the Cabal groups. They were hashing out how they were going to do a disclosure, if they did end up coming together with a common goal. And how much they would release, how they would release it, and they had a whole plan laid out. Well, they had several plans laid out for a partial disclosure.

And one of them was the disclosure of the lower Secret Space Programs.

David: Some people watching this show are going to have trouble understanding why would the Cabal want to disclose anything for any reason at any time?

Corey: They don't have a choice at this point. They are on their way out. They have had - the Cabal groups - have had people defect, bringing extremely sensitive information with them over to the Alliance. They are at a point to where they're just trying to negotiate from a point of weakness while feigning power.

David: What's the next noteworthy thing that takes place with any of this stuff that we've been talking about, Gonzales, the beings, the Anshar, etc.?

Corey: Well, I was still having these etheric conference calls. And the rest of them . . . Kaaree would be in one of these egg-shaped chairs and so would Gonzales.

David: Really?

Corey: Yeah. They would both be sitting . . .

David: In 'the Construct'?

Corey: In 'the Construct'. And we would have meetings that way. Gonzales started behaving very strangely. He was making real smart comments, derogatory comments. And his attitude was just horrible towards me. And it seemed to happen overnight. And I did not know why. And I was given no explanation as to why he had been residing with the Anshar for a number of weeks.

David: So you found this out in the course of these meetings that they had with you?

Corey: Correct.

David: Other than him being snide, what was the content of these meetings? What was actually being discussed?

Corey: There was a discussion of upcoming meetings that we would be having. And Gonzales was delivering messages from the SSP Alliance and confabbing with me about the data that he was giving me. And he was giving me some partial briefings. They seemed to be a lot . . . There was a lot less beef in the briefings than there used to be.

So I felt . . . I could tell that he was trying to squeeze me out.

David: So by this point, you have also apparently been pulled in by this lower level SSP group, but we haven't actually discussed that yet. And I know that you're reticent to want to talk about it because it was very upsetting.

Corey: This was different than anything else I'd ever experienced. My first memory of what was happening is I was walking . . . and there was a parking lot behind my house for a stadium. And I was walking barefoot with people around me, military people around me, walking towards a craft that was parked in this parking lot.

David: I don't understand. Did people come to the door, knock on your door and say come with us?

Corey: I don't know.

David: You don't remember?

Corey: All I remember is walking up towards the stairs to go up onto the craft, seeing a partial view of the front of the craft. It reminded me of these stealth boats or ships that the Navy has a little bit – how it was angled. I remember walking up to the stairs. I don't remember going up the stairs.

And then the next thing I know, I'm sitting in a fold-down chair inside a craft, and I'm strapped in with a harness.

2 Image With Bunks And Chairs

David: Okay, now the first image that we have is just of the room itself. We have these bunk beds over on the left.

Corey: That fold up against the wall.

David: Right. And there's what looks like IVs of some kind on them. Then we have these chairs that look like flight chairs with seat belts on them.

Corey: Right.

David: So could you describe for us what this image is that we're seeing right now?

Corey: This was the small area of the craft where they interrogated me. And it was a bit tighter spaces than the image shows. It's a little bit spread out. It was a little bit more cramped. But, yeah, the bed. They had IV posts that folded on the side of the bed. And they popped one of those up and stuck an IV in my hand.

3 Corey Being Interrogated

David: Now, we have another image here in which now we're seeing you strapped into the chair. And there is a military man standing in front of you, holding out what looks like an iPad in his hand, and you're looking at the iPad.

Corey: Right.

David: So could you explain for us what this image is describing that happened to you during this meeting?

Corey: This group . . . There were two that were working on me.

David: Two soldiers?

Corey: Two . . . And they smelled of Air Force. It just felt like that branch or they came from that branch.

David: Okay.

Corey: There were two that were working on me and one that was coming and going. And he would come in and ask them questions. And they were in the process of taking hair samples. They were scraping skin. They took blood. And they were saying that, “If he's been where he said he's been, there'll be trace evidence, and we can tell.”

David: So they actually know how to measure these off-planet locations by trace elements that would appear in your hair and blood and skin scrapings?

Corey: That's what they said.

David: Interesting.

Corey: One of them began telling me, “You know that all of these beings are not really aliens. They're just us from the future from two different timelines.” And I couldn't really respond. And he was saying that the Nordic type of people are us from the future. And these little grey beings are us from a different timeline in the future.

And they are coming back to try to fight over the timelines. And they were stating that the Greys, their genetics had broken down so badly in the future that they were coming back to get genetic stock as well.

David: So they've been trying to push this on us for a long time.

Corey: Right. Yeah. This . . . You know, and I really couldn't respond in the state I was in. And with the iPad, I did not recall this immediately, I did not recall this part until later.

4 Guy Showing Corey IPad

The guy that was holding the iPad in front of me first sat there and he started going through all of these different like Scandinavian, German, and all these different phrases for different programs. They were going to see if I was going to be triggered.

David: As in like MKUltra mind control stuff, trigger words?

Corey: Yeah. Yeah. And also tones, like a series of tones or a series of words . . .

David: Really?

Corey: . . . in different languages. And they went down a whole list. And all of that I was able to recall.

David: So nothing caused you to go into some mind control state?

Corey: No.

David: Yeah.

Corey: So what occurred next . . .

David: What did they feel when they . . . What were they looking for by running these words on you?

Corey: Well, they were looking to see if I was triggered. They were already a little . . . Their eyebrows were raised a little bit already when they strapped me in and before they drugged me, they were starting to power up the craft to take off. And I didn't normally hear this in other craft. I heard like rotors starting to turn all around me, but I couldn't see them. And they felt like they were under. And the craft started to vibrate a little bit.

Then I heard that distinctive sound of when a capacitor is charging or discharging. And I felt when we started to leave, I felt a little inertia, which I normally don't feel. And I made a comment to them that this must be one of the older models because I'm not used to these sounds and sensations.

And they just kind of looked at each other kind of puzzled.

Well, we're skipping ahead a little bit with the iPad because I hadn't recalled what had happened. But they put an iPad in front of me that had a little camera on it somewhere that was watching my eye. And I was drugged. And I was hanging down and my head was like this. [Corey's moves his head so he's looking down at his stomach.]

And they held it under . . . Like hovering above my lap, they held this iPad kind of machine. And they started going through all these photographs, six photographs per screen – three on top, three on bottom – and they looked like academy photos – military academy photos.

David: When people graduate and they've got the full uniform on, and they got the flag behind them. That kind of thing?

Corey: Yeah. The flag's behind them, different symbols behind them or seals for branches of military. And then there were people that were in suits as well as they were going through.

And I was looking at it. And as they would go through, they would pause for a second. If I looked at one of them and recognized one of the pictures, it highlighted red. And this occurred three times. There were three people that I recognized out of all of the photos. And it turns out one of them was Gonzales.

David: Wow!

Corey: Yeah.

David: Now, when you say that some of these people were wearing suits, why would they not be wearing military uniforms?

Corey: I don't know. They could be contractors. I have no idea.

David: Intel people perhaps?

Corey: Yeah, or . . . Yeah, intel people, politicians. I have no idea who the people in suits were. And they had flags as well.

David: But you didn't remember outing Gonzales until much later?

Corey: Right. Because I did not understand why he was being so hostile towards me in our meetings. He was being very rude.

David: Now, you also said in the course of this interrogation that they kept telling you, “You will forget. You will forget.”

Corey: Right. Well, one of the people, the guy that kept coming in and asking questions, they were like, “Are you sure he won't remember this?” And the person that had the laptop was like, “There's no way. It's like class something amnesiac” or something. He said that it's like an anesthetic when you go to surgery.

David: But somehow you, maybe because of the same powers that allowed you to not be blank slated after your space program service, this actually did not work on you.

Corey: The data came back a little differently. It came back in chunks. And then I had to marry them together. And once I put the unsegmented memories together, then it just all started tickling down and opening up for me – all the memories.

But I did not remember the outing of Gonzales and two others until the Anshar actually told me in a meeting after Gonzales had worn out his welcome in the Anshar city he was staying.

David: These guys . . . Did they think you were a fake or were there things that were shocking to them?

Corey: Well, they didn't understand because the information I had been giving was accurate. And they didn't understand how I could be giving accurate information when according to their records, there were no records about me in all of these program files that they were looking through.

So I think they were trying to investigate and find out more.

David: Do you think these guys were aware of compartmentalization and the higher-level Secret Space Program, or did they think they were it?

Corey: They thought they were it. But they were aware of compartmentalization. But their egos had been played too. They'd been told, “You're at the top of the totem pole. This is all there is.”

David: So you have this interrogation. And now let's go back to the meetings in “The Construct” with Gonzales and Kaaree. You said you identified three people, but you didn't know that anything had changed.

Corey: Right.

David: However, and I remember talking to you about this, it was of deep concern to us because your briefings used to be quite thorough and now they've gotten almost down to a trickle.

Corey: Yeah, very sparse in data.

David: And Gonzales . . . His whole attitude and demeanor towards you changes.

Corey: Right. Yeah. He was just making snide comments, little rude jabs, and I didn't know how to respond because it was totally out of character for him. He normally was the one pushing to get more intel to me instead of holding back information.

David: What did Gonzales say during this time about the war for Full Disclosure vs. partial disclosure? Because I know some of that was starting to come out.

Corey: Well, yeah, our conversations all throughout were dealing with partial disclosure, their ideas on how I should proceed to get people together and to focus and that kind of thing.

David: Right. Did Gonzales say that there was still a possibility of Full Disclosure, or was it like partial disclosure was now going to take over?

Corey: The Alliance believed that partial disclosure would be very difficult to do with all of the data that was out there.

David: Because they'd have to fly in the face of all these high-quality whistleblowers who are already on public record.

Corey: Right. And people would start asking all kinds of questions.

David: and then it just unravels.

Corey: Right. Kaaree had stated that he was behaving very erratically. He was constantly pacing off steps and making mental notes, like he was doing intelligence-type gathering.

David: Like he's trying to create a map in his head of the base that he's in?

Corey: Right. Yeah. You normally count paces.

David: Okay.

Corey: And this store had so many paces down this corridor. That kind of thing.

David: And, of course, these people are telepathic so they know exactly what he's doing. You can't hide anything.

Corey: Right. And apparently he was also going into restricted areas, wandering into restricted areas when he knew better.

David: Wow! But did you know why he was in the Inner Earth at this point?

Corey: No, I had no idea until he had already left and went back to a Kuiper base. And Kaaree had one of those, I guess, etheric conference calls with me and had explained that Gonzales was not staying with them anymore, told me a little bit about how he had worn out his welcome, and then that's when she opened my eyes to . . . that I had outed him and two others.

David: Okay. I got to ask you this because a lot of people are going to be writing in these comments otherwise. Why in the hell, if the Blue Avians can pull you out of Mars when you're about to be killed on the Mars base . . . We did that episode already. Everybody's seen that. Why in the hell do they authorize you to get pulled in?

And if Gonzales ends up getting angry at you about outing him, how could you have defended against this technology? I mean, you're drugged. You got abducted. You don't remember how it happened.

Why would this be authorized? What was going on here?

Corey: Well, they later on, it was explained to me by the Blue Avians that these incidents needed to occur.

David: Oh, really?

Corey: Right. That it was . . . That they were all catalysts for other things to happen.

David: Let's talk a little bit about what Gonzales' role was. How critical was his role to the SSP Alliance?

Corey: Well, he was living down here on the Earth a good deal of the time under a cover life. And while he was here, he was interfacing with some of the Earth Alliance and some of their operatives that are down here.

And when he was very quickly removed, basically rescued by the Anshar, he was unable to fulfill those duties anymore.

David: Would you say that these lower level SSP people that abducted you were reporting back to the Cabal?

Corey: I assume that. But I don't know if that was an unauthorized series of missions they did trying to figure things out, get some intel themselves.

David: Why do you think these . . . If the lower level SSP people are not connected to the Cabal, why would they want to take Gonzales out? What would be the objective that he would have to be rescued by the Anshar?

Corey: Well, out of the three people, one of them was killed. And one of them disappeared.

David: The three people that you outed?

Corey: Right. And Gonzales was rescued.

David: So let's just say if the lower level SSP people did report to the Cabal, the Cabal knows who everybody is in the Space Program. They have dossiers on everybody, but they don't necessarily know who's in the Alliance.

Corey: Right.

David: Now, you did say the Alliance has some safety zones in the Kuiper Belt, and there are people hiding out in there. But there's obviously also double agents – people that are still working in the program - but they're keeping a very, very tight secrecy around themselves to be able to pull this off.

Corey: Correct. And very soon after that . . . after this conversation with Kaaree, I was actually teleported, as I was before, just flashed down to one of their flight control areas. And I was told that I was going to be taken to a meeting in the Kuiper Belt because the SSP Alliance at this point, they've been unable to enter the atmosphere or low Earth orbit - near Earth orbit.

David: And why not?

Corey: Well, they no longer had clearance.

David: From who?

Corey: From the people that are basically like air traffic controllers at the LOC, and those who control the defense grid around the planet.

David: Why would they lose clearance?

Corey: Well, because they had been outed as opponents.

David: Okay. Right. So they had been working within the system, but keeping this all very secret.

Corey: At that point . . . Until that point, they could put a call in through into intelligence assets, task intelligence assets, and those intelligence assets would have no idea that they were doing errands for the SSP Alliance.

David: Wow!

Corey: But when I was pulled down to the Anshar flight control area, I saw one of the craft that Gonzales had told me . . . that he called “a bus”. He called it an Anshar bus. And it was kind of like a bus. It had a bunch of . . . you know, a whole lot of seats, like 26 or 28 seats in it. And it was arranged sort of like a bus. And the front of it squared off and went into a cone like a fighter craft.

Anshar Bus Craft
(Gaia used an incorrect image. This is the correct image of the Anshar Bus craft)

And there were two Anshar pilots that sat one in front of the other in the cockpit area. And it was just Kaaree and I. And I expected her to sit next to me, but she sat kind of in another seat, one seat up across.

David: Okay.

Corey: And they took me to the Kuiper Belt. And this was going to be the first time I saw Gonzales since I knew that he had been outed. So I was a little bit nervous.

So we get to the Kuiper Belt base - the same one where earlier they had the Anshar meeting the Triangle-Headed being, the Golden Triangle-Headed being.

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David: Okay.

Corey: So I recognized the area. But this time I was brought into an interview room, basically an interrogation room with a metal table that was welded or bolted to the floor. And Gonzales was sitting in a chair. And there was a guy, kind of a big guy, sitting in a chair right next to him, which . . . The whole thing was unusual.

And I was sat down and Gonzales wouldn't hardly even look me in the eye. He just had this total energy of disgust towards me. And that threw me off. And then this other guy started talking. He was talking more than Gonzales.

And I was supposed to get some sort of a briefing. And they were sitting there sliding a pad back and forth, a smart-glass pad, back and forth. And the other guy actually had a pen and pad of paper – real low tech. He was writing stuff down.

He had notes on there he kept sliding over to Gonzales and pointing like this. And Gonzales would do that. [Gonzales would shake his head side-to-side meaning 'no'.] And Gonzales was obviously on board now with restricting information to me since I had been a major security leak in that interrogation when I revealed three people.

So that meeting was real short – not so sweet.

David: Did you get any briefing information at all, and if so, what did they actually tell you in this meeting?

Corey: They were just giving me very light information. Different . . . I mean, Trump came up. They talked about how there were some certain threats against him that weren't being taken seriously. They were talking about a bunch of . . .

David: You mentioned the possibility that he could be assassinated by what would appear to be a Mexican national.

Corey: That's what their report said.

David: But that it would actually be a Cabal operation . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . and that his people weren't taking it seriously enough.

Corey: Right. And so they were talking about some of the meetings that they . . .

David: Now, some people are going to go, “Whoa, whoa, hold on. Trump? Why do they care about Trump? What's their opinion on Trump?”

Corey: Well, they care about Trump and Sanders big time. They've been extremely excited about the movement behind both of them – people standing up to the-powers-that-be saying, “Enough corruption, enough lies”.

David: So they don't think Trump is, with all his money, that he's Cabal?

Corey: Correct.

David: They think he's actually totally different from that.

Corey: Right. Yeah. And they were not pushing him over Sanders or Sanders . . . They were just very happy about the movement.

David: I have had other insiders independently tell me that the Cabal feels that if Trump wins that it would be catastrophic for them.

Corey: I was told that there is no way they're going to let him win. They'll steal the election - whatever they have to do.

David: Wow!

Corey: And this was just one thing. I mean, they also . . . Next, they covered . . . They expected some very big terrorist attacks, like a last hurrah of ISIS, because most of the operatives had moved out of Syria and into Europe and were trying to get to the United States. Because . . .

David: But we know that ISIS has gotten heavily defeated and they were . . .

Corey: The point is Gonzales was making it very obvious that he felt differently and that I would now get very manicured intel.

David: Right.

Corey: That they were making . . . It was almost like theater. They were making a point that I had screwed up, even though I didn't do it on my own volition, that I had screwed up and it had cost them dearly. And it did.

David: And what was the attitude of pen and paper guy? How did he treat you?

Corey: He was kind of gruff, but he didn't . . . I mean, there wasn't a whole lot of interaction. You know, he was just kind of a gruff military type – matter of fact.

David: What takes place next?

Corey: I was extremely upset on the way back.

David: In the bus craft?

Corey: Yeah. And she was asking me what all occurred telepathically.

David: Okay.

Corey: And I had just enough time to relate to her what went on in the meeting when we were approaching Earth. And then we went back down, entered through this blue swirl in the ocean, and ended back up in the flight control center. And I was sent back home.

David: Okay. And the blue swirl is just like a portal thing . . .

Corey: I would imagine.

David: . . . that appeared in the ocean. Okay. Now, this is also going to hep to set up and get people excited about what we're going to talk about in the next update episode, because some very, very fascinating stuff takes place regarding Venus, Ancient Builder Race outposts, whether there's Inner Earth beings living on Venus.

So since we don't have enough time to do this in this episode, but could you just give us a teaser about what we're going to be hearing next – some of the really weird stuff that happens?

Corey: Yes. And when Gonzales was still staying with the Anshar for that number of weeks, the Anshar had arranged a meeting on this outpost on Venus that had working Ancient Builder technology. And there was another meeting planned as well. And Gonzales found a way to convince them to only take him.

David: Right. All right. So that's just some of the amazing stuff that we're going to be getting into in the next episode of these updates. It's pretty fascinating stuff that gets very strange. And also, we have what starts to happen with you and this guy we're calling “The Wrangler”, which I know I've been trying to kind of hold you back from having to talk about this because it's pretty frickin' horrible for you.

Corey: And the Wrangler happened to be the gruff guy that was sitting next to Gonzales.

David: Okay. So that pen and paper guy is the Wrangler.

Corey: Yeah.

David: Okay. So there's some pretty intense stuff coming up for you in the next episode. This is Cosmic Disclosure. I'm your host David Wilcock. And I thank you for watching.

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